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", and this is the first of several conversations we're going to have looking at the future of television. helping us to kick off this series is gordon smith, former senator for the state of oregon, current president and ceo of the national association of broadcasters. welcome, sir. >> guest: thank you. good to be back. >> host: also joining us for the conversation, ted gotsch of telecommunications report, serves as senior editor. senator smith, could you start by talking to us about how people watch television in the current day as say even opposed to fife years ago -- five years ago? >> guest: well, clearly, a lot is happening in telecommunications generally, and broadcasting is affected by that. we're sort of the original wireless, but we remain highly relevant because what we do tends, it is local, and as to those who want to get it the old-fashioned way, it is free. and yet you have satellite, you have cable, and now you have the internet through hulu and netflix and others that are other ways for people to access television. so television remains highly relevant to the future because when you l
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